• Okay, well I feel better knowing it wasn't some official information. Arwen came back probable clear, btw. She is almost 9. I'll continue to strip test til they have a DNA test that is really reliable.


  • @DebraDownSouth:

    Pat, that's so true. What upsets me is the need to continue testing is not NEW information. I applaud this web info, but all I can think is… why wasn't she strip testing? WHY WHY WHY?
    http://batcavebasenjis.zoomshare.com/3.html

    I didn't at first but as the years past, I like many people got comfortable with the results and not knowing of any errors gradually stopped.

    Also Ace had a litter of pups, before the test came out, who were also tested, and all our results added up and seemed to be right. Now having re-tested them all, we found out that Ace and one of the pups were given the wrong results.

    Jessica


  • @DebraDownSouth:

    Okay, well I feel better knowing it wasn't some official information. Arwen came back probable clear, btw. She is almost 9. I'll continue to strip test til they have a DNA test that is really reliable.

    A "reliable" test would not have done Ace or Diamond any good it was human error.

    Jessica


  • I think that is the point… not only is the test a marker test, but there seems to be quite a bit of errors. I would probably continue to strip test even if they developed a new test just because I am now so leery of messed up results.


  • @DebraDownSouth:

    I think that is the point… not only is the test a marker test, but there seems to be quite a bit of errors. I would probably continue to strip test even if they developed a new test just because I am now so leery of messed up results.

    I don't consider the number of errors that have occurred to be "quite a bit" when one considers how many were actually tested.
    Unfortunately, when anything involves humans, there will always be the possibility of human error. That should be a given.

    In the Spring of 2009, when we found out that "Funny" CH Khani's You Can Make History was spilling sugar, we were dumbfounded. I posted everywhere about her situation. She was tested again [this time a swab, as her original test was blood] and again, she tested as a carrier.
    At that time, Jon told me that there was one other dog that was in this situation… tested more than once as a carrier, yet spilling sugar.
    When Funny passed, a sample of her kidney was sent to UM for their research.
    At that time, we found out the importance of testing dogs that could have tested as a carrier... meaning those that came from a breeding that could produce an affected... as in Funny... she was from a Carrier x Carrier breeding.

    No matter the errors, this test is a god-send and I will take those errors with the good that has come of the test. The number of Fanconi Affecteds being produced by responsible breeders has dwindled to next to nothing.

    Compared to the past... it isn't the same as playing Russian Roulette anymore.


  • Kathy, I sure didn't mean to indicate it isn't a godsend or fantastic! Of course it is. I just meant… well as the Arabs say, Trust in G-d but tie your camel. Get the testing, use it to help guide breeding, retest if necessary, but keep doing the strip test. It's an easy if annoying process that protects your dog against testing errors or human errors.

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