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  • snorky998S

    I have been perusing the suggested 'Zande Basenji' sponsored site (http://www.pedigrees.zandebasenjis.com) from another forum topic area and trying to find my male's extended pedigree. Tyler is listed there, but none of the additional info. No dam, no sire, etc… (http://www.pedigrees.zandebasenjis.com/)

    Am I wrong to find this highly suspect? (NOT by Zande, but the breeders)

    My male's breeders have a Jan. 27, 2000 litter registered (http://www.basenji.org/african/ImbaTena.htm)), but nothing of Ty's litter of 12/21/97. I have the sire's information/pedigree–-Eldorado's Adonis--, but unfortunately I come up with nothing for him, either. As I search through 10 plus years of paper work, coupled with a home move, and a major flood this past spring, I can't find the bitch info.

    Any suggestions for following up on TY's relatives is greatly appreciated:)

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  • tanzaT

    Eldorado's Adonis is there, search on just Adonis (is that your boy's sire? or is it Imba Tena?)
    http://www.pedigrees.zandebasenjis.com/cgi-bin/geneal.pl?op=tree&index=Ly393j86&gens=5&db=basenji.dbw

    If breeders don't send Sally the litter information then she can't link that info to the offspring. Lisa (lvoss) and I try to help her fill in the blanks.

    Pat Fragassi

    Tanza Basenjis

    www.tanzabasenjis.net

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  • tanzaT

    Also, did you get your boy from Eldorado?

    Pat Fragassi

    Tanza Basenjis

    www.tanzabasenjis.net

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  • snorky998S

    Yes, an Eldorado Adonis pup (now a gracefully aging elder) No, not purchased from an "Eldorado" breeder that I know of (if that makes sense). Tanza, I purchased my dog from Jim I., Quincy, IL. Ty's Rwanda lines were registered per pup contract. I only included the link to show the Icenogle/Coe relationship, as that was my boys co-breeders as well in 1997.

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  • lvossL

    If you send me the sire and dam's name and Ty's registration number, I can help Sally get the database updated. My email address is lisa at basenjinet dot net.

    Sally gets most of her information directly from breeders. The only way she can get litter information for dog's whose breeders don't submit them is to get them from sources like Show Catalogs, Nationals Results, etc. That means if the dogs are never shown, coursed, raced, then there is no way for us to know they exist. I do my best to get show information for her as well as to help her get information of pet store dogs, BYBs etc. This information can be very helpful for owners but is difficult for us to provide if we don't know at least the sire, dam, and one pup's info.

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  • L

    Lisa and or Pat,
    Does Sally also get information from the CPP if owners fill out the pedigree survey? Just curious about how the whole process works

    To you

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  • tanzaT

    @snorky998:

    Yes, an Eldorado Adonis pup (now a gracefully aging elder) No, not purchased from an "Eldorado" breeder that I know of (if that makes sense). Tanza, I purchased my dog from Jim I., Quincy, IL. Ty's Rwanda lines were registered per pup contract. I only included the link to show the Icenogle/Coe relationship, as that was my boys co-breeders as well in 1997.

    Not sure what you mean by "Rwanda" lines? But if Adonis is the pups sire, you are correct, there is no litter in his breeding information on the date you are showing as Ty's birthdate… so could be that Jim I (I don't know any breeders by that name in IL, by the way) never registered the litter....

    If you know Ty's Dam's name, that would be helpful

    Pat Fragassi

    Tanza Basenjis

    www.tanzabasenjis.net

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  • tanzaT

    @LiveWWSD:

    Lisa and or Pat,
    Does Sally also get information from the CPP if owners fill out the pedigree survey? Just curious about how the whole process works

    She does not get any information from the CPP site (which is pretty new). She gets her information from breeders directly, stud books, show catalogs… but mostly she relys on breeder information....

    Pat Fragassi

    Tanza Basenjis

    www.tanzabasenjis.net

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  • lvossL

    Anyone who has pedigree information that is not in Sally's database and wants it listed is welcome to email me the information and I will send it to Sally.

    The minimum information that I need is the Sire, Dam, and puppy's AKC registration number.

    If the dog is not AKC registered then I need a little bit more like Name, Birthdate, Color, Sex

    If you only have partial information that is okay, you can send it along. Sometimes we can piece things together with partial information or it may link up to something later when someone else provides info.

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  • snorky998S

    What I was told by Jim Icenogle was that all of his pups, if registered, had to have the word Rwanda in the registered name, I guess like a kennel name or something??

    My daughter is searching through her things at college to see if she took Ty's complete papers with her. I happened to run across a xerox of the sires lines stuck in her copy of "The Complete Basenji".

    Funny, I could have SWORN the breeder told us the litter was registered. Live and learn.

    Thanks for all the help.

    BTW…before posting this I googled his name with the word 'dog' and it appears he now raises and shows Chinese Cresteds. At least if I can't find Ty's papers I may be able to locate him and he should have the copies of the dam's side, right?

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  • lvossL

    The litter may very well be registered, many litters are registered but don't show up in Sally's database. Do you have Ty's registered name?

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  • snorky998S

    Rwanda's Tyler the Tiger

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  • tanzaT

    Dam's name is Rwanda White Diamonds.. (according to AKC). I will let Sally W know so she can make the links (as there is a litter mate on her site also)…

    Jim I's dogs came from Hacker Basenjis....

    Based on the pedigree, if you have not DNA tested for Fanconi, it would be a good idea.

    Pat Fragassi

    Tanza Basenjis

    www.tanzabasenjis.net

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  • snorky998S

    Thank you for the info and the advice! I'm planning on him being tested. Glad the swabs are available now. I won't forget to register first.

    Again, thank you.

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  • snorky998S

    Interesting, I just visted OFFA and the Hacker web site with the new info you've given me. Very interesting.

    BTW…..is it common to have a disclaimer concerning possible Fanconi infected dogs in a puppy sales contract?

    Again, thank you for all the time and effort you put into helping me. You're a gem:D

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  • tanzaT

    @snorky998:

    Interesting, I just visted OFFA and the Hacker web site with the new info you've given me. Very interesting.

    BTW…..is it common to have a disclaimer concerning possible Fanconi infected dogs in a puppy sales contract?

    Again, thank you for all the time and effort you put into helping me. You're a gem:D

    I don't think that Hackers are active in breeder Basenjis at this time and have not been for 5 or more years…. their note about Fanconi comes from before we had the DNA test for Fanconi and we could only use our best judgement in breeding. So breeders could never say "never" regarding Fanconi prior to the DNA test. This is why it is so important that breeders test "before" breeding...

    Glad that I can help.. and if you have more questions, please feel free to ask...

    Pat Fragassi

    Tanza Basenjis

    www.tanzabasenjis.net

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  • NemoN

    @lvoss:

    Anyone who has pedigree information that is not in Sally's database and wants it listed is welcome to email me the information and I will send it to Sally.

    The minimum information that I need is the Sire, Dam, and puppy's AKC registration number.

    If the dog is not AKC registered then I need a little bit more like Name, Birthdate, Color, Sex

    If you only have partial information that is okay, you can send it along. Sometimes we can piece things together with partial information or it may link up to something later when someone else provides info.

    Ivoss,

    Do you mind if I email you Nemo's info? I was wondering how to get him on the database.

    Thanks,
    Clay

    Connect with the Basenji Club of America on Facebook

    http://www.facebook.com/basenji.org

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  • lvossL

    No problem. Send it to me and I will get it to Sally.

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