New Africans at Basenji Park


  • Is it a good thing to have basenjis direct from Africa to breed with dogs descended from Africa?


  • Wow that is great, sounds like Jon's trip was a total success!!!!! Wish you had pics of the ones that are staying here….


  • @Ninabeana26:

    Is it a good thing to have basenjis direct from Africa to breed with dogs descended from Africa?

    Of course first there is the process of getting them admitted into the AKC stud books, but BCOA is working on that now.

    The nice thing to see is there has been other dogs brought into the US with "claims" to be Basenjis, IMO, they are not even close.. however the ones that Jon Curby and group are bring back in beginning with the first Avongara's to the couple from year before last and now these, is great to see and to work to the common goal of expanding the gene pool


  • They are amazing! I wonder if there is a language barrier problem? hee hee. :o)


  • The female is really bossy….....:D 😃 😃 Our's all want to see them.


  • I'm in love with them! They are so precious!

    & thanks Pat for answering my question 🙂


  • Well "of course" the female is bossy!!!! ggg.. she is a bitch after all!


  • @tanza:

    Well "of course" the female is bossy!!!! ggg.. she is a bitch after all!

    Yeah, I should've put a duh???? after that.:D

    They are really vocal at times. I'll try to get some video.;)


  • @Basenji_Boy:

    Yeah, I should've put a duh???? after that.:D

    They are really vocal at times. I'll try to get some video.;)

    Great.. wish you all had pictures of the other 4 that came back with these two…. Jon is "so" bad about pictures.. and Tanda is just as bad...

    do you happen to know what other colors the other 4 are?


  • @tanza:

    Great.. wish you all had pictures of the other 4 that came back with these two…. Jon is "so" bad about pictures.. and Tanda is just as bad...

    do you happen to know what other colors the other 4 are?

    Tanda said she'd send us some pictures of the trip and dogs.:) I don't know what the other four where, I'll see if I can find out or if Gail knows.


  • Great thanks,….


  • I think the Avongara and Lukuru importation efforts have yielded wonderful results, importing beautiful native basenjis that clearly show breed type. I really look forward to this year and all the information that Native Stock Committee plans to collect and post on all these guys so the basenji community can see that there still are basenjis in Africa.


  • @lvoss:

    I think the Avongara and Lukuru importation efforts have yielded wonderful results, importing beautiful native basenjis that clearly show breed type. I really look forward to this year and all the information that Native Stock Committee plans to collect and post on all these guys so the basenji community can see that there still are basenjis in Africa.

    I totally agree 😃


  • What Adorable Dogs!!! Makes me want a puppy again!! I saw a TV program several months ago about Basenji's still in Africa and showed the pack of dogs living with a tribe. It was very interesting!! Keep the pictures coming!!


  • @Ninabeana26:

    Is it a good thing to have basenjis direct from Africa to breed with dogs descended from Africa?

    In a word….yes! It is called genetic diversity 🙂 All of the dogs that we call "domestic" meaning bred down from dogs imported in the '40s, came from 12 dogs...sot that just isn't enough for a really long term healthy gene pool. In the late '80s more were brought in, and within the last few years, we have added some more (but those haven't been included in the AKC stud book...yet!)


  • @Quercus:

    In a word….yes! It is called genetic diversity 🙂 All of the dogs that we call "domestic" meaning bred down from dogs imported in the '40s, came from 12 dogs...sot that just isn't enough for a really long term healthy gene pool. In the late '80s more were brought in, and within the last few years, we have added some more (but those haven't been included in the AKC stud book...yet!)

    Again, I totally agree, however that said… there have been some people that have brought back IMO, "so called" Basenjis that are no more then what I would call village dogs, NOT Basenjis... and should not be included into the AKC stud books when/if they are reopened.


  • @tanza:

    Again, I totally agree, however that said… there have been some people that have brought back IMO, "so called" Basenjis that are no more then what I would call village dogs, NOT Basenjis... and should not be included into the AKC stud books when/if they are reopened.

    Who makes the decision for which imports are included in the AKC stud books?


  • The Basenji Club of America and each dog is evaluated on its own merit. Right now there is a committee that is reviewing the standards and offering ideas, suggestions, etc on what would be acceptable to include a new import. lvoss is on that committee and she might be able to share some of the committee's ideas.


  • I ditto what everyone else said. Those pups are just beautiful.

    Pat


  • I beliveve there was 1 tri and 3 r/w (with the cutest dark muzzles IMO 🙂 )that were brought back along with these two. Tanda is keeping one and Jon is keeping another. The other woman who accompanied them is keeping one & the final pup is going to Colorado.

    From the great stories & pics we saw from Tanda (hoping she sends us the pics!) there weren't too many brindles this time & some really nice b/w. But they were not able to bring any b/w this time b/c they were too old.

    Andrea is absolutely right broadening the gene pool to breed healthy lineages is the purpose for all of these super expensive trips. We also heard stories that the place where these dogs were found are secluded areas of the jungle in Congo and so the breed has remained fairly intact & pure sort of speak.

    However the country is now opening its doors to larger charitable organizations and certain commerce to explore the area's natural resources. Unfortunately the result of this is that the purity of the breed that they've found here will soon become scarce. As the area becomes more accessible to the rest of the world it also becomes accessible to other dogs 😞 They already saw an example of this in Congo's 2nd largest town where someone brought a German Shepard to the area (un-neutered) and you could already see mixed dogs roaming the area. It's quite sad.

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