Ah yeah though the site that I saw clearly had a picture of a Basenji representing the breed! Your link, they look nothing like Bs
So annoyed
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@AJs:
Assault does not apply to animals. Animals, while living creatures with feelings of their own, are considered to be property. There are special stipulations applied to animals in the legal system such as cruelty, however, we're not talking about holding the dog down and fire branding it or cutting its ears off or other such heinous acts. I'm talking about inflicting a temporary stinging sensation that teaches a dog that a particular fence bites, but does not cause injury aside from a temporary bruise if at all.
I guess we will have to agree to disagree
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@AJs:
Assault does not apply to animals. Animals, while living creatures with feelings of their own, are considered to be property. There are special stipulations applied to animals in the legal system such as cruelty, however, we're not talking about holding the dog down and fire branding it or cutting its ears off or other such heinous acts. I'm talking about inflicting a temporary stinging sensation that teaches a dog that a particular fence bites, but does not cause injury aside from a temporary bruise if at all.
Dear lord….I don't want to start a flamed discussion here, but seriously AJ, I don't think you are thinking straight here. And I can't believe that anyone in a dog forum would even suggest shooting anything at a dog! Makes me sick.
Of course it's illegal to shot a dog, even if it's a bb gun, soft pellet gun or whatever.
A quick google on the matter, and you will find tons of situations people did just what you suggest, and the people where taken to court, and LOST.
Found this:
"My dog got shot with a mini pellet dog on my neighbors property. My dog was being aggressive but did not attack anyone. We took them to court because my dog needed surgery to remove one the the pellets. We sued them for hospital and surgery fees and we won regardless of the fact that the dog was on there property. The reason was because they 1. did not alert the owners of escaped pet, 2. did not warn us to there actions, 3. took the law into there own hands and 4. animal cruelty. So if I was you I would call the police and file a complaint. If it happens again then it is your right to either have animal control seize the dog or have it put down if it attacks you or your family. Judges really don't like people who try to hurt animals, most of them anyway." -
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When the **** did I laugh at Gizmo during his allergic reaction???????? Sorry, but were you present and watching the whole time? Not once did I find that situation funny! Watch the video, not once did I laugh, nor did I EVER post that I found it funny in the topic I wrote about it! God I am shaking with anger here! I went ****ing sleepless for 2 days holding him during that time!
Nor have I ever thought it was funny watching him hump other dogs. Sure I can laugh every now and then, but only when amongst dogs I know. If there is a strange dog, I pay extra attention to that dogs reaction before stepping in. If you are referring to the single video i posted some time ago, that was a dog I KNEW and felt safe with. That one video dog and Gizmo got along fine doing their "humping switch" session.
Also I TALK to the other owners, and get to know the dog before doing anything. If I feel safe with the dog, I do not interfere.
And according to some professional trainers books I have read, at his age it's important that he learns on his own, and not have me protecting him like some fragile Chinese vase. How can he learn from that? There is a bigger danger in overprotecting the dog!
Dogs do manage to work things out by themselves.God, you have some nerve! Makes such harsh accusations with such a small amount of information.
I don't know you, nor will I pretend to, but you seem like one stuck up arrogant person that thinks that they know it all. Especially to go as far as to think you know me and how I am with Gizmo!
I have never been so offended. Do you go to playgrounds and yell at parents in not raising their children correctly too???
Oh, and BTW, yes assault DOES apply to dogs, it falls under the category of animal cruelty. And that case was a case in USA.
Anyways, I am so pissed off you won't see me here for some time, or maybe ever. I can't stand arrogant people.
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@Shaye's:
:eek: WOW - you have a wonder-Basenji, having gotten out of the yard and just coming right back in! When mine escapes the leash, it's an all-out run and trap situation with all the people I can find trying to catch her.
It is too bad the other people let their dogs roam free, though - that would really ruin our walks since any distraction sends them into bounce, chase mode!:D
I was surprised when he just squeezed back in too. When he got out before, I had to chase him all over the neighborhood. I felt really bad about it because I was running through people's yards and chasing him out of their gardens and off their porches. I think that these two times he was protecting his territory or something, because after he came back in, he paced the length of the fence for half an hour or so, sighing, huffing, and grunting the whole time.
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I didn't mean to cause so much controversy with my post. I was really just venting and trying to find out what others might do in the same situation since I was starting to feel somewhat helpless and extremely annoyed.
At the moment, there are about 7 of us that will continue to walk together every day and calling AC when we see the roaming dogs and will be taking pictures and videos. Hopefully we will find out who their owners are soon. I am also still calling the owner of the two smaller dogs whenever I see them out. As for the rest, we will take it as it comes.
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What in the world is going on here people?? We are all obviously animal lovers here. My opinion is that if you do anything potentially harmful to another person's animal you are putting yourself in legal jeopardy. To do someone's dog intentional harm is animal abuse and it will get you put in jail.
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I didn't mean to cause so much controversy with my post. I was really just venting and trying to find out what others might do in the same situation since I was starting to feel somewhat helpless and extremely annoyed.
At the moment, there are about 7 of us that will continue to walk together every day and calling AC when we see the roaming dogs and will be taking pictures and videos. Hopefully we will find out who their owners are soon. I am also still calling the owner of the two smaller dogs whenever I see them out. As for the rest, we will take it as it comes.
You didn't…. and this is the perfect place to "vent"... we have all done that and had times when others are NOT responsible dog owners....
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Another option- Take the offending dog and put it up for adoption! Roaming dog , stray dog= up for grabs! LOL! Does your town have animal control? That is just irresponsible. I reside in CT and we have a leash law here. I feel your frustration when I go to the state parks and rude people let their offleash dogs run all over and slime other peoples dogs that happen to be on leash. If it is well behave off leash, I am sure it will be well behaved on leash as well!
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I didn't mean to offend anyone either…Hopefully we can move on from here.
Regarding earlier posts: I guess I grew up in the old Back Woods where we didn't have animal control and if someone's dog was killing your chickens or threatening your family members, to include pets, we just took care of the problem ourselves. After warning the offending dog's owner several times. As I said in the first comment on this, it would not be a popular option. However, other members have come up with options that may work better and are certainly more palatable.
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How about alerting your local media? I think this is a great story, it's caused a little bit of controversy already. You can let them know how humans have to walk in packs just to protect themselves against stray dogs and this way you'll be able to expose owners and the lack of support from your local animal center…
I still like the walking stick idea when out and about. Have you tried something like a air horn for the ones that get in your back yard? And instead of a air type rifle; how about a super soaker?
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@-Clar|Emm|Kai-:
…instead of a air type rifle; how about a super soaker?
Excellent idea!
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There are products that when pointed at a dog give off a sound which firghtens them off! One I know of is called a 'Dazer' an electronic device which gives an ultrasonic sound that dogs can hear. I haven't seen them advertised for some time, I must admit!
I had to use one years ago when a neighbour used to 'set' her dogs (Deerhounds) at mine when we walked past - it was very effective and possibly a bit cruel for the hearing but it was either them or mine.
