@Kembe - Thanks for the update
Senior in ID needs a home
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Lisa, I want to answer your post, because blush I used to be one of those uneducated folks. Doing rescue, you can get very narrow, and when your full up with dogs you can't help, you get mad, which makes you a bit stupid.
When I started rescue I was one of those folks you spoke of…the Evergreen basenji club allowed to to learn that without the "quality" breeders we have now, our breed would be NO more. BUT rescue folks tend to only see that "there are puppies"...
Not that you have homes for them, or will take back a dog you breed no matter how long its been gone.
There is more, of course, but I think you see, its an educational process and some breed clubs sneer at rescue, so the education doesn't take place.
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I hate that the rescue will not adopt to anyone with an intact animal in the house though.
This means that anyone who shows their dog, or keeps their canine athlete intact to avoid bone problems, even if they have no intention of breeding cannot adopt if they wanted to.
Responsible breeders and rescues need to work together to put the BYBs and puppymills out of business rather than be oppositional toward each other.-Nicole
I also find this sort of thing unfortunate. As unfortunate as any blanket statements. Others I've seen is that rescues won't adopt to homes with kids under Xyears (applies to all dogs, not some); won't adopt to homes without fenced yards, won't adopt to military families, etc, etc.
The other thing that really bothers me is that most rescues are now doing early neuters on the animals they place. As someone who is active in agility and enjoys other dogsports, I don't want a pup that has been neutered before the growth plates are closed. I'd like a younger/ish dog so I can start training early (and to minimalize untraining!), but I don't want an 8 week old neutered dog. I've read the studies, and until more science is done, this is my desire. Because of that, I may never get another rescued dog again. It's a shame because I think I provide a pretty good doghome. Good food, nice area to exercise, my own dedicated agility field, etc. But it's their rules and their dogs. So I guess I can go elsewhere.
Of course lots of people disagree with rescues placing intact animals, and I understand that too. Another blanket rule.
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Blanket rules are because a group needs to deal with the lazy, uneducated public.
IMO. Folks who are responsible are responsible no matter what the rules, the rescue/humane societys have to make sure they protect the animals from the former, bubbas who just want a dog and just plan to feed/water it. -
Sharron, I do understand. I have helped with rescue, screening homes and evaluating dogs. I have volunteered at my shelter. I know how big the problem can seem. That is why I get so down when even someone volunteering with me at the shelter can turn around to me and say how horrible I am. Education is absolutely needed but how can these people who have closed their minds so completely expect to educate others about responsible pet ownership?
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Hey, now! I resemble that Bubba comment sometimes….:D
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I mostly like basenji Bubba's! laugh
Lisa, I think mostly rescue folks in shelters are just overwhelmed. Even with all the education and some low cost spay/nutering programs out there, they seem so many unwanted pets coming in. I believe most of the folks go to work at shelters because the love animals…I think when they have to kill so many, it makes them love humans less.
Just my guess.
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Looks like the foster redid the post for Lucy a little bit…
"She had been there 10 days, laying on the cold, concrete floor with no blankets or anything to keep her warm. WONDER where the "breed Rescue" people were???"
Indeed.
Again, I hope this elder lady finds a forever home.
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Rescue can only help when we know about a dog, or the shelter will let us.
I had no idea this girl was in the kill shelter, and am glad she was p/u by this group.
Also, we can't take a dog if there is not foster home.
So, speaking for rescue, we do what we can.
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@AJs:
Looks like the foster redid the post for Lucy a little bit…
"She had been there 10 days, laying on the cold, concrete floor with no blankets or anything to keep her warm. WONDER where the "breed Rescue" people were???"
Indeed.
Again, I hope this elder lady finds a forever home.
What a rude thing to post?… did they contact rescue? Can rescue be expected to call every shelter every day just in case there is a basenji there? Did the shelter try and contact breed rescue? Not like it is difficult to find a breed rescue group on the internet. As Sharron rightly posted, can't help if you don't know....
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This Rescue, while it may be wonderful to the dogs in their care, I can't say about that, seems to hold some rather extremist views.
They Quote the HSUS, won't adopt to you if you have an intact animal, and further, will send you "educational material."
They seem to hold the view that all breeders are awful, and I assume, as with most prejudice, will glom onto anything they can find to support that view, even if it means disparaging other rescues.
My MIL is looking for a senior female basenji to adopt, and, as we proved with Aries, we will go to lengths to get the right basenji, but, even before they added these things about breed rescue, I could not support that rescue, due to their HSUS quoting, thus never inquired about her.
-Nicole
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Please don't punish the basenji because of the shelters remarks.
I found the remarks offensive, but still want to help this girl.
Please, if you know someone who can give her a forever home, refer them.
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Please don't punish the basenji….Please, if you know someone who can give her a forever home, refer them.
Its all about the dog after all...+10.
She looks like a pretty girl and from information in the home wanted ad, seems very sweet.
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Okay I will pass her on to my MIL.
I'm pushing Princess in KS, for her personally though. My MIL says she wants a senior, and Princess is only 4, but I still get a feel that they would be a good fit together.
-Nicole
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It is all a matter of matching the dogs. I have seen dogs just not "like" the new dog, and when another dog same breed is brought in, its love.
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This Rescue, while it may be wonderful to the dogs in their care, I can't say about that, seems to hold some rather extremist views.
They Quote the HSUS, won't adopt to you if you have an intact animal, and further, will send you "educational material."
They seem to hold the view that all breeders are awful, and I assume, as with most prejudice, will glom onto anything they can find to support that view, even if it means disparaging other rescues.
My MIL is looking for a senior female basenji to adopt, and, as we proved with Aries, we will go to lengths to get the right basenji, but, even before they added these things about breed rescue, I could not support that rescue, due to their HSUS quoting, thus never inquired about her.
-Nicole
This really is a good rescue. I've been chatting back and forth for a few weeks now and I know their hearts are in the right place. They are just as frustrated as many rescues out there who have to deal with people dumping animals. And to make things worse, her breeder did finally come forward and contact them after OVER a month because they didn't realize she was missing.
Whhhaaaaaaat?! How can you not realize a dog is missing? This same breeder also never had a mammary tumor removed on her for OVER 3 years. (BTW BRAT returned this girl to the Breeder over 3 years ago when the people she sold her too dumped her in a Seattle shelter after she developed a mammory tumor.. at the time we had NO idea how neglectful she was and we've learned our lesson.) Additionally she refused to take the dog back, refused to reimburse them the $200 they've put into this dog surgically AND in basically the same breath said they have a litter on the ground right now for $1200 a piece. In my book, this Rescue has earned their spot in Heaven for taking this girl in and helping her and her breeder has earned a first class ticket to you know where.
If your MIL is interested, the vet said that she's honestly the nicest Basenji he's ever had the pleasure of meeting. She's housebroken, quiet and an all around nice girl. Vet also said her insides were very healthy, and her uterus was in great condition even though the people this 'Breeder' sold her too bred her every heat cycle.
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Andrea said it so well. Please, don't discount helping any dog/cat/animal because some of the "stuff" puts you off. Its really, bottom line..all about the dog.
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I feel like people need to be just as careful when choosing a rescue as they are when choosing a breeder.
Rescues have been found to be hoarders, to be breeders labelling their dogs as rescues as a marketing ploy, or like PETA, to kill 97% of animals they "rescue". The impression I got of this rescue was that it was not one I wanted to work with because they seemed to hold some extreme views.I am delighted to hear that I was wrong and that this is a good rescue. The situation with the "breeder" is horrible, and I am glad this girl is finally being cared for.
I agree that the breeder has earned herself a place in you know where.After Estelle passed away while my MIL was in the process of trying to adopt her she is a little gun shy. It is amazing how attached you can get to an animal you haven't even met.
-Nicole
