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Coat Color Inheritance in basenji

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  • Thank you for this. I dont understand alot of it but i do understand some of it. :) What is a Agouti? I know alot of ppl have said it. is it like the DNA link where all the different letters create the whole "agouti" i have NO idea on this part. And an allele? that is what? i know but i have no idea how to describe it…i may not even know its the thing im thinking lol

  • Agouti is the name given to the location for wolf grey/sable/tri/recessive black. Most geneticists use A (agouti, wolf grey) and a (recessive black) and the superscripts y (red, sable) and t (tri) for the Agouti series. Since the majority of basenjis seem to have either a^y or a^t, it is easier in these type of forums to a letter like Y to describe the relationship.

  • @lvoss:

    Agouti is the name given to the location for wolf grey/sable/tri/recessive black. Most geneticists use A (agouti, wolf grey) and a (recessive black) and the superscripts y (red, sable) and t (tri) for the Agouti series. Since the majority of basenjis seem to have either a^y or a^t, it is easier in these type of forums to a letter like Y to describe the relationship.

    OH! ok ok i got ya. So when its a^y its really ay (with the y being up higher)
    .y
    a ignoring the period, is it kinda like that. Ok! i got ya! and i agree, Y is MUCH easier than all that mumble jumble haha. Thanks for the clearification!

    um… so was the t (tri) changed to y? for convenience too?

  • Let me give my example
    my bitch Abotere's Zulika is red ant white.
    father Abotere's Mogli - brindle white
    mother Abotere's Zhenga - brindle white

    in brackets are other possibilities red
    father DD Kbrk ayay(ayat,ayaw,ayas,a)
    mother DD Kbrk ayay(ayat,ayaw,ayas,a)

    Zulika is a red and white.
    Parents received one literce k
    DD kk ayay(ayat,ayaw,ayas,a)

    Zulika bore children father is Abotere's Wazhiri(tri color DD kk atat)
    Only two alleles atat tri color show

    Puppies were born, all red and white
    the children I know that design is only one
    DDkkayat
    all carry the tri gene (at), but it is masked by a gene (ay)

  • @Monika:

    Let me give my example
    my bitch Abotere's Zulika is red ant white.
    father Abotere's Mogli - brindle white
    mother Abotere's Zhenga - brindle white

    in brackets are other possibilities red
    father DD Kbrk ayay(ayat,ayaw,ayas,a)
    mother DD Kbrk ayay(ayat,ayaw,ayas,a)

    Zulika is a red and white.
    Parents received one literce k
    DD kk ayay(ayat,ayaw,ayas,a)

    Zulika bore children father is Abotere's Wazhiri(tri color DD kk atat)
    Only two alleles atat tri color show

    Puppies were born, all red and white
    the children I know that design is only one
    DDkkayat
    all carry the tri gene (at), but it is masked by a gene (ay)

    I guess i kinda get that but i am used to using the letters DD, Yy, Kk, and then for brindle is K^br
    so adding ayat and all that is just confusing me. I have been uing the above ones so now im not sure what you mean. is there a way to transform yours using those letters?

  • you're in the middle of agouti

  • OH MY GOSH ITS ADORABLE!!!! :D I have never seen a basenji with that coloring before! that is so crazy!

    So what is her gene pool? or what do you call her in regards to coloring?

  • Y is ay
    y is at,aw,as,a

  • ok it my girls parents are (mom) RD and (dad) BLK. I figured mom would be DDKkYY and dad would be DDKKY and its either y or Y.

    So would my girl be DDKkYY (she is a red puppy)

  • @Monika:

    Y is ay
    y is ay,at,aw,as,a

    Thank you! Now i understand!

  • DD kk awaw(awas,awat,awa)
    Dd kk awaw(awas,awat,awa)

  • wow she is simply georgous! so she is technically called a tri? how is that?

  • This is the agouti

  • I must flee.
    greet

  • o ok. i got ya. is that a recognized color in the breed? I have never seen this before! She looks so cool! just like Lvoss said, wolf like. She really does look like it! thats awesome! How did u get her?

  • @Monika:

    I must flee.
    greet

    ok have a nice night! thanks for sharing!

  • one last thing for anyone to answer. ok lets say there is a 16 punnet square.

    The thing is br br br br down the left side and along the top is br Br bR BR

    you will get Bbrr, bbRr, bbrr, and BbRr,

    Bbrr is black. bbRr is red. bbrr is Tri and BbRr is black also.

    ok so here is my question. BbRr is Black but if there is a R that is a dominant Red, so what does that mean? does that mean this dog is able to produce red puppies tho it is a black and white? or does this mean that the black was just more dominant in this color pattern and it over took the red making the dog look black in color. Just curious. thanks

  • BbRr itd do not relate to race Basenji

  • Saddle - http://www.basenji.org/african/B_Tena.htm (czaprakowy)
    DD Kk a^sa^s and (a^sa)

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