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  • spitfirekrl1S

    I recently read an article provided by another member regarding rude behavior in other dogs and how our dogs might react. Most people would find this behavior 'agressive' however it states that the other dog is just invading personal space and my dog is just reacting (telling them to get outta my face). This is completely understandable and raised some questions about my own dogs rudeness.

    We had a friend over who brought her dog, Lola (a female Shi-Tzsu sp??). The foster parent we had picked her up from informed us that she was a very dominant female. I hadn't really noticed it until she was around Lola. Lola would be sitting on the couch and she'd jump up there and try and push her down by pressing firmly on her neck. Lola would growl and snap at her which would scare her away for a minute but would constantly be at her. I thought she'd get over it after a while because Lola wasn't having it but she kept at it the entire time.

    Am I supposed to put her in another room if she's acting like this? Is she trying to dominate? Will she, most likely, be like that with all dogs?

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  • QuercusQ

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    When dogs meet, they immediately sort out who is going to get to be in charge. It often helps to introduce them on neutral territory, like a park, and then bring them back to somebody's home.
    IMO, if you put her in another room, you are only delaying the interaction where they sort everything out. I would be more likely to distract both of them by calling them over. Your descriptions sounds kind of like your dog was trying to get the Shitzu to play. The way I am envisioning the scenario (might not be accurate) I wouldn't do anything, unless it looked like it was going to escalate into a fight. And next time I would take them for a walk together before bringing one into another's house.

    Andrea Walters

    Quercus Basenjis

    NW Ohio

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  • jys1011J

    How should you allow dogs to "meet"?? Neutral territory or in a home?? Should you use a gate in between first? Or just on leash??

    Basenji Mom of C3PO & TOPAZ

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  • spitfirekrl1S

    @jys1011:

    How should you allow dogs to "meet"?? Neutral territory or in a home?? Should you use a gate in between first? Or just on leash??

    In addition to that, what is concidered appropriate behavior and what isn't? I know that they need to sort out dominance but how long is that supposed to take?

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  • jessi76J

    @jys1011:

    How should you allow dogs to "meet"?? Neutral territory or in a home?? Should you use a gate in between first? Or just on leash??

    I agree neutral territory is best - not in one or the other's home. if you must - do it outside. as for a meet & greet routine, I allow "first name, last name"

    first name = head or nose sniff.
    last name = toosh sniff.

    I let my dog meet & greet on leash, so I can correct any bad behavior. if all goes well, I let them play in a safe area (fenced or in house) and let them sort things out - supervised of course, incase a serious fight breaks out - but that hasn't happened (yet… knocks on wood).

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    @DebraDownSouth: Fran, there are times when I might mean to be condescending, but I assure you that it won't be "a little" or usually any question. That you could take my comment above as condescending… I can only suggest you may simply want to block my posts because it is entirely unlikely I will write 100 words to say what I said in under 20 because SOMEONE might see my observation as insulting. Now if I had said it condescending, such as: How could you THINK it could be that? Don't you think any dog living with females would already have reacted? How silly! The person threw out the idea of periods, which sometimes could be it .. and btw, pregnancy hormones set some dogs off… but it hit me he had lived with them too long for that to be probably. It wasn't an insult to the OP, just a response. People contradict my ideas daily on here, doesn't make them condescending or insulting. THEN, I could see it. I simply tossed out a quick response addressing that logically it probably wasn't that. If you read that as condescending instead of my own view, I am sorry. One helpful rule for forums is that you look at any post and see if there is another TONE than the one you ascribed. If there is, take the other. Like your post. I COULD think you are a jerk, not at all "friendly," addressing this here and hijacking the thread instead of sending me a private message. Instead, because I see you post a lot and like you :), I took it exactly at face value... you simply are expressing your view and trying to be helpful. So please remove any tones you might ascribe to the answer. The tone in my head is simply factual, that I am not responsible for your taking that as condescending and probably won't be able to stop you seeing other posts that way. Now if I actually say something you cannot take any way than as an insult, feel free to let me know. But the above... sorry, Fran, it was simply a logical observation. LOL, and in fact, let me now be "condescending" to my post. (I am joking while making a point.) SOMEONE (but it will be me, since it just hit me where I could easily be wrong...) could have responded to my post and said: Yeah, but dds, you are wrong because maybe she has an infection or urinary tract infection also with a period, that might do it. See? Debra, not a problem. Thank you.