@khanis:
Sorry you have to be ripped apart like a common backyard breeder.
You have dogs with good breeding behind them…
Common back yard breeder:
has a pet (or breeding pair, gag)
limited knowledge about genetics and testing
no knowledge of pedigrees and thinks having any champions anywhere in the pedigree (champion bloodlines is how both BYB and puppymillers advertise such dogs who have ANY champions in last 4 generations) makes the dog worthy of breeding
little to no health testing
Sorry but this person, nice or not, is a common backyard breeder and frankly, quite a BIT less knowledgeable than most byb today. ONE HOUR on the internet reading and this person would have found both BCOA and health issues. This person either didn't GIVE A DAMN to research or is so utterly knowledgeable that he didn't even KNOW to try to read up on health issues. He seems to want to do right, but in this day and age, it is negligent that he didn't already read some basics on his own. If he has the ability to find this forum to ADVERTISE his puppies, he certainly could have found info before breeding.
No one RIPPED this person. No one was harsh. But yes, this person is a backyard breeder. And considering the facts presented, I think everyone here was very nice because it really does seem this person is open to learning and doing things right.
As for your outside raised dogs… glad you lucked out. Won't bother to show you studies indicating yours is not the norm. Perhaps the puppies owners spent massive time with them, which obviously compensates for them being outside. This person couldn't even be there for the whelping, for crying out loud. Your encouraging a novice owner to keep them outside when they truly need all the socializing they can get to compensate for lack of experience... well I find that a little alarming. I appreciate you think your dogs came out fine, but you probably got a pup from experienced owners who truly DID go the extra mile to make sure outside raised dogs got enough attention.
