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  • Interesting however that 99% of the time you can get males back together.. different from bitches that once the blood is drawn, it is over for life…

    My fights were with an intact young male and an older neutered male.. the young male was a "wantabe"... and within a few hours they would go back to existing quite nicely with each other... but bitch fights can be deadly....

  • I recently read "males fight to win, bitches fight to kill" ….sad, but so often true....

  • @Quercus:

    I recently read "males fight to win, bitches fight to kill" ….sad, but so often true....

    Exactly.. and it is sad… but true!!!

  • Thanks for the good advice. They are getting along fabulously now but I know that being shelter dogs there may be more issues that come up. Treatballs are only given in the crates now. Interesting all the information about the real status fights and what to look for. So far Shelby is usually submissive to Vince. I've seen both dogs do the licking the lips and looking away thing when the other had a bone but never realized that they were communicating. I figured they were waiting to steal it. Stealing is a favorite game with these two.:) I also wonder if the weather and other circumstances in the house contribute to how they get along. Some days they just seem calmer and other days Vince acts like a bully. I figure we all have our good days and bad days.

  • @Quercus:

    I recently read "males fight to win, bitches fight to kill" ….sad, but so often true....

    Sadly, I've experienced that first hand more than I want to. The last fight we had to break up, (Cleo and Raven), Cleo's mate Max thought he needed to jump in…...it was very scary. Raven ran past someone opening a gate to an area of the house that is Cleo's and Max's territory........it wasn't pretty at all. Raven is the smallest Basenji we have and Max and Cleo are the biggest.:(

  • When I have had serious bitch to bitch fights it was interesting that the other bitches and my male would join in…. however, if it was a male to male fight, the bitches didn't even bother to get up from nap

  • @tanza:

    When I have had serious bitch to bitch fights it was interesting that the other bitches and my male would join in…. however, if it was a male to male fight, the bitches didn't even bother to get up from nap

    That's funny and so believable!:D :D :D Go ahead guys, knock yourselves out.:D :D

  • @Basenji_Boy:

    That's funny and so believable!:D :D :D Go ahead guys, knock yourselves out.:D :D

    Exactly!!!!

  • Yes, –- like with my human children --- even if identical treats are given, Jazzy has to leave hers to go check and make sure everyone else got the same thing, and to make sure that theirs are not bigger or better somehow than hers.
    BUT, let anyone try to check on HER treats, and the Tasmanian Devil noises start! LOL

    It's been very cute the last couple of days: Keoki has been taking hooves from Jazzy. I do not interfere as I figure they need to work out their own relationship details. It starts when she has the hoof and he walks up; she starts griping at him. He sits next to her and does that cute little leg thing they do {I think someone referred to it as boxing}. She growls louder, he moves closer. Louder/closer/louder/closer... and then he just reaches in and takes it. Once she did try to snap at him, but when she moved her head away from the hoof to snap, he reached under and grabbed it. The look on her face was priceless -- kind of "well, that didn't go the way I'd planned".

    When he first moved in, she didn't give things up to him.

    I don't let him take her other treats, that is those things that are actually handed out to them as a treat. But the hooves just lie around the floor and they can grab those at will. Since there are more than one around, and they really aren't "special" to the dogs, I do not interfere. I'm really impressed with how well she's dealing with him these days.

  • That is exactly what Crystal is doing with Kobey… while she has been thrilled to have him... he loves to steal what she has...

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26 Apr 2007, 15:56

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    @Mantis: so how is it working? the LEAVE IT command is great. Start with not cat objects you dont want you puppy to play with, say leave it, get the attention and give a tiny treat… you can also encourage this type of response while playing fetch. when the puppy brings back the toy, hold the toy until the pup releases it, say GIVE not participating in any tugging or shaking behavior which encourages the prey drive. i find that a soothing voice and looking the puppy directly in the eye does the trick. they will look away or release the toy. if this is hard, use a tiny treat to encourage the GOOD GIVE after the fact. Leave it is similar. i used to chase caesar around when he wanted to chase the cats....lots of LEAVE ITs and treats, but the give works as well....caesar bled the two commands together.... give is good becuase it establishes your terms to the game and doesnt encourage that shaking behavior if you want to avoid it ( i avoid the behavior in case we have small kids in the house that pull toys from the dogs) leave it is good to establish your own terms.... Great post, Mantis. I totally agree, and great explanation of the training steps!