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  • OzymandiasO

    Our basenji is about 15 weeks now and he does pretty good with peeing outside, the problem is he has decided that pooping is to be done indoors. We're not sure why this is but would be interested in hearing other like stories or some things we can do to try and correct this.

    Terry

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  • tanzaT

    You just need to go back to housetraining 101…. and when you take them out, they don't come back in till they poop...
    Is this when he is crated? Or is it happening when you are home? If when you are home, then you need to watch him more or restrick his area....
    Have you been able to catch him in the act?

    Pat Fragassi

    Tanza Basenjis

    www.tanzabasenjis.net

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  • OzymandiasO

    Thanks Tanza, I'll try that. No it isn't in the crate. We have caught him in the act a time or two and if we tell him to stop he does and them we rush him outside. I work from home but can't watch him all the time. He is restricted to the kitchen but I can restrict him a bit more, if that helps. I could crate him for a while each day if that helps I just don't want him to associate his crate with punishment, so I won't crate him in relationship to this.

    Terry

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  • JazzysMomJ

    That's what we did – once I said "Let's go potty" and we headed outside, we stayed out until potty had been achieved. Sometimes we were out there for longer than I'd anticipated or really had time for. Once they went potty, there was lots of "good potty!!!" praise, and then we'd head back in.

    I'd also say try to get a feel for when he poops. They seem to be fairly consistent. Mine tended to have to poop shortly after eating. Within 20 - 30 minutes after a meal, we'd head out to potty.

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  • tanzaT

    Great post JazzysMom…. exactly right on

    Pat Fragassi

    Tanza Basenjis

    www.tanzabasenjis.net

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  • wizardW

    I've done the same as JazzysMom except I added a small treat as a reward. Occasionally Gossy will pee in house but never poop. She now runs Back and forth like crazy (different from the B500 run) to let me know she has to go - so watching their behavior is important to pick up their signals.

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  • KanangaK

    You just need to build a routine.

    I take Kananga out 3x/day. Each time he will do his #1 and #2. Rarely will he only do one of them solely. I've never had any issues really. But I do wait until he does both before going in and he seems to understand that.

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  • E

    If they poop in house, I tell them "bad dog" (if I catch them.) I pick up the poop with a paper towel and take it out to the 'poop place.' I put it out there and it seems like next time when the dogs see/smell it there, they figure out better "this is the place I am supposed to do this"

    Weird, but has worked for us.

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  • Shaye's MomS

    Not to be indelicate, but you can also watch the dog carefully for when he's starting to circle and, their little butts kind of pooch out when they are ready to poop. Watching for that was a godsend for us when we were training Shaye.

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  • KanangaK

    @Shaye's:

    Not to be indelicate, but you can also watch the dog carefully for when he's starting to circle and, their little butts kind of pooch out when they are ready to poop. Watching for that was a godsend for us when we were training Shaye.

    Yup. Very good point here. I noticed this as well.

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