Breeding Plans

Breeder Talk

  • Hmmm… Arlene... can't wait to see pics at 8 wks and see if we all still agree on Bubba...but the Tri bitch is really cute too...

    But I can certainly understand your reasons for keeping a boy and it makes sense....


  • @bellabasenji:

    I just love the name Tink, is it short for Tinkerbell?

    Yes, Tink is short for Tinkerbell.


  • The tri bitch is, I don't know. Her body is okay, but so far, I don't like her stop. We will have to see. I actually, at this point prefer Tink's head.


  • @nomrbddgs:

    The tri bitch is, I don't know. Her body is okay, but so far, I don't like her stop. We will have to see. I actually, at this point prefer Tink's head.

    Just curious…when you say you don't like her "stop," what do you mean???


  • @nomrbddgs:

    The tri bitch is, I don't know. Her body is okay, but so far, I don't like her stop. We will have to see. I actually, at this point prefer Tink's head.

    Obviously a disadvantage to only see the pictures, you have "real time"…ggg

    But I think the Tri bitch's stop at this age is just fine.....

    From the Breed Standard, Stop is referred to as just below the eye, as the foreface tapers to the muzzle: The skull is flat, well chiseled and of medium width, tapering toward the eyes. The foreface tapers from eye to muzzle with a perceptible stop. Muzzle shorter than skull, neither coarse nor snipy, but with rounded cushions.


  • True Pat, at this age it's hard to tell, but she seems to have a deeper stop, and has seemed this way for awhile, than the others.

    But it could also be the darker colour. Looks are sometimes very deceptive.


  • @nomrbddgs:

    True Pat, at this age it's hard to tell, but she seems to have a deeper stop, and has seemed this way for awhile, than the others.

    But it could also be the darker colour. Looks are sometimes very deceptive.

    For sure, but all in all, very nice litter…. Congrats


  • Thanks, Pat. I was hoping for certain things, but I will have to wait to see if they came out the way I was hoping.


  • 4 1/2 weeks. They were a little tired!

    Bubba

    Talker

    Indi

    Tink


  • It looks like Tink is so sleepy she would fall over if the hand was removed. Cute.


  • I just read the whole thread. What a beautiful litter! I am assuming Sugar is doing well at this point? It would be so hard to choose just one! You guys are the worst for puppy fever! We are moving to Alabama in September *with a fenced yard. My husband said we could get another dog then :) YAY!


  • Sugar is doing okay. She's still feeding, but doesn't spend any real time with them. The puppies are starting to eat pablum, with the girls (of course) doing better than the boys. Here are 5 week pics.

    Talker

    Indi and Bubba playing with a toy in the potty box

    Tink, climbing the x pen.

    Bubba, of course

    the group

    Tink, Talker, and Indi


  • cute…. Reminds me of my Maggii, after the first two weeks she wanted nothing to do with her pups if she could help it.... she happily gave them to Mickii and had I let Mickii milk up, she would have "washed" her paws of them...ggg We are NOT talking about Mother of the Year... Now Mickii on the other hand was the best of best Mom's... she loved her babies and loved being with them...


  • Love the pic of the little one climbing the x-pen!


  • @tanza:

    cute…. Reminds me of my Maggii, after the first two weeks she wanted nothing to do with her pups if she could help it.... she happily gave them to Mickii and had I let Mickii milk up, she would have "washed" her paws of them...ggg We are NOT talking about Mother of the Year... Now Mickii on the other hand was the best of best Mom's... she loved her babies and loved being with them...

    She was actually better at feeding them last week. Now she just goes in to get some of the milk out to relieve herself and the puppies have started eating gruel. Bubba is still unsure about the gruel and would prefer to have Mama feed him for the rest of his life!


  • They are so adorable! That is quite a litter :)

    I love the photo of Tink trying to make a break for it! Haha. Too cute!


  • Ahh yes, I believe Tink has now taught Talker to climb as well!


  • You're lucky if you only have 2. My first litter, every one of them would escape. It started with Heart and Rio, they would be out of the whelping box even though their eyes weren't open. After their eyes were open it didn't take too long for them to get over the short barrier we had so Rally could easily get to them. We then went to a baby gate, they were over that by 5 weeks. We switched to a plywood barrier so they wouldn't have foothold. So they would be in an ex-pen in the puppy room and have the second barrier across the doorway and by 8 weeks we would every couple of days find an escapee. Granted the barrier had to be low enough that Rally could get in because she absolutely hated not being able to check on them.

    Even now when I go to a lure trial people call Rio, Popcorn, because if I open the top of the ex-pen she leaps into my arms.


  • I'm expecting the tri to start to climb too. Bubba probably won't as he's the most laid back. But Sugar will climb out of an x-pen-even with a lid on. I don't leave her in one at all, because it doesn't matter who she's with she will climb out. People didn't believe me until they saw it one day-she bent the top to get out. I'm surprised they didn't start earlier, but at least I've had a reprieve from it a bit longer than you Lisa!


  • @nomrbddgs:

    Bubba is still unsure about the gruel and would prefer to have Mama feed him for the rest of his life!

    Ha, ha, ha…this cracks me up. Between you and Pat's "not mother of the year" ...and might I add, that sounds like some grown men that I know. :D

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