Basenji Puppies in Qatar?

[EugeneC]

Good day Everyone,

New to the site, looking for help. We are looking to buy a Basenji puppy, we're currently based in Doha, Qatar (expats) - could anyone please advise on how to go about this?

We are happy to bring one in from abroad if that's what it takes, we have done our homework and we are very sure this is the breed we want.

Any help will be very much appreciated.

Regards,
Eugene

[Antigone]

@eugenec You should check Countries that are closer to where you are. I cannot think of a Breeder in the United States that would sell you a Basenji puppy. The Flight takes a very long time and the Dogs are always in the Cargo Hold. I have brought Cats from Boston, MA by Air and I had to buy a seat next to me so I could keep her with me. Dogs die in the Cargo Hold and they are petrified even if you give them a sedative.

[Pippi]

Yes, I agree with Antigone. Try and find an animal closer to Qatar.

[Redial]

There are many fine pups from Australia, and there are direct flights. Quarantine laws? Australia has distinct export laws as far as health checks go, and crate size has to be appropriate. Good luck.

[DebraDownSouth]

Dogs fly just in the USA millions of times per year. More dogs die in car wrecks or eating the wrong item or escaping out the door and getting hit by a car. It is a beaten to death topic here, but I really hate seeing stuff pushed as facts that aren't. Btw, the recommendation to NEVER sedate has been publicized for at least 20 years. They do fine. And yes, there are some breeders who ship overseas or from overseas to the US. Cargo is kept pressurized and temp control.

As for Qatar, I'm sure you have it already, but in case, here is the link for importing.
http://www.hukoomi.qa/wps/portal/!ut/p/a0/PYyxDsIwDES_hSFzUtjYKhZY6QB0M60JVhPbStMg_p5GCCbf07uz7e3V9gyFPGQShrDy7TXEvUJ-mmbXHpdJJJJptu6C93oOwhk5G_dTrsNUaMDZuBOPVGhcINRmgBXZ16jgq2-Z4tedcZYl1dEK8_8BqIb3Q9IonqJKyoopUrYdstWp3XwAq_HIAA!!/

You may find that it is cheaper to go get the puppy and fly it back with you, btw. Some countries have pretty hefty fees for importing, but just paperwork bringing in a pet with you.

If you have the patience, you can copy the breed clubs closer to you and see if there are basenji breeders :
http://www.fci.be/fr/members/members.aspx?iso=LB (lebanon)

The Kennel Club of Lebanon 

Corniche el Mazraa
Salam Saeb Street, Ramadan Saidi Building (3rd floor)
LB BEIRUT

Tel. 00961 1303145
Tel. 00961 1 317575
Fax. 00961 1 317575
http://www.thekennelcluboflebanon.com
info@thekennelcluboflebanon.com

1 . REP.SUD-AFRICAINE (Full Member)
Kennel Union of Southern Africa
PO Box 2659
ZA 8000 CAPE TOWN

Tel. 00 27 21 423 9027
Fax. 00 27 21 423 5876
http://www.kusa.co.za
nadia@kusa.co.za.

Egyptian Kennel Federation
4 Moaz Ibn Gabal St.
El Hegaz St.
EG HELIOPOLIS, CAIRO

Tel. 00 20 226230530
Tel. Cell
. Fax. 00 20 226230460
http://www.ekf-eg.com
info@ekf-eg.com

Bahrain, Greece and others within shorter flying distance:
http://www.fci.be/fr/members/

Israel club lists Basenjis. I have yet to see one other than mine. Yet our Samoyed, totally alien to this region... we've met 4 already.

If those don't help, there is an international board on facebook: https://www.facebook.com/p1dogshows/ (also links on right to world shows etc). Write them, write US and UK breeders. Someone will know about breeders that are closer to you, or who may bring a puppy to you or work out the best transport.

Good luck and yell if I can help.

[EugeneC]

Thank you Everyone for the replies, your input is very much appreciated. Especially thanks @DebraDownSouth, I will reach out to the kennel clubs listed and hopefully we can make it work.

[Antigone]

@debradownsouth I have a friend who lost 2 Austrailian Sheepdogs on a Delta Flight from LAX to JFK. Death in the Cargo Hold is more common than you think. Some Airlines treat Pets as Luggage and that is not right. So I must disagree with you regarding long Flights. The Vets recommend SEDATION for any pet that goes on a Plane. Olympic Horses have to Fly to the Games and I know a woman who was on the flight where a Horse had to be euthanized because he was so hysterical he put his hoof through the Wall of the Cockpit. The Pilot ordered the Horse to be put down. Lengthy Plane Rides and Animals just do not mix.

Thanks!

[tanza]

@antigone - I disagree with your statement "Vets recommend sedation for any pet that goes on a plane". When in fact they DO NOT recommend sedation

[DebraDownSouth]

@antigone said in Basenji Puppies in Qatar?:

@debradownsouth I have a friend who lost 2 Austrailian Sheepdogs on a Delta Flight from LAX to JFK. Death in the Cargo Hold is more common than you think.

Nope, they actually keep statistics. It is precisely as common as I think.

Some Airlines treat Pets as Luggage and that is not right. So I must disagree with you regarding long Flights. The Vets recommend SEDATION for any pet that goes on a Plane.

Nowhere to start with "treat as luggage" because what does that mean to you? How do you know? Is putting in cargo your idea of "treat as luggage" or is it something like abusive or uncaring?

As for sedation on flying... you need new vets and to report those who tell you that. For anyone who thinks you are right, below is information based on facts:

1. According to the American Veterinary Medical Association (AVMA), sedating cats or dogs during air travel may increase the risk of heart and respiratory problems. Except in unusual circumstances, veterinarians should not dispense sedatives for animals that are to be transported.
   https://www.avma.org/public/PetCare/Pages/Traveling-with-Your-Pet-FAQs.aspx

Also
""Q: Should I tranquilize or sedate my pet for long flights?

A: It is recommended that you DO NOT give tranquilizers to your pet when traveling by air because it can increase the risk of heart and respiratory problems. Short-nosed dogs and cats sometimes have even more difficulty with travel. Visit our FAQs about short-nosed dogs and air travel for more information.

Airlines may require a signed statement that your pet has not been tranquilized prior to flying.

According to Dr. Patricia Olsen with the American Humane Association, "An animal's natural ability to balance and maintain equilibrium is altered under sedation and when the kennel is moved, a sedated animal may not be able to brace and prevent injury."""

FDA
https://www.fda.gov/AnimalVeterinary/ResourcesforYou/AnimalHealthLiteracy/ucm352635.htm
Sedatives: While sedatives may make your pet seem less stressed during car trips, these medications also have a tendency to dull the senses and lessen your pet’s ability to react to the environment, which can be dangerous in an emergency. When traveling by car or by plane, avoid giving your pet any type of sedative. If you think Champ or Freckles really needs a sedative to travel, talk to your pet’s veterinarian before your trip.

Airlines:
https://www.united.com/ual/en/us/fly/travel/animals/procedures.html
United supports the American Veterinarian Medical Association’s recommendation to not accept animals that have been sedated. United will not knowingly accept a dog or cat that has been sedated and accepts no liability for the death or sickness of an animal caused by any drug.

PetAir UK
Q. Can I sedate my pet before they fly?
No. No and No. Those clever folks in the USA did a study on deaths of animals after flying and veterinary grade sedatives were implicated in around half of them, so it is banned. Secondly, there are no drugs which will work for the full length of the journey and no-one can guarantee how they will work with the air pressure changes and if they make your pets excitable or too sedated we don’t want that to happen.
https://www.petairuk.com/faq-page#t16n175

I could post more but state by state vet assoc say the same thing.