Structure in Action - Pat Hastings


  • actually helen king has some very interesting info on ewe necks and retrieving. look at june 15, 2008
    http://sonicagility.blogspot.com/

    and here:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ej3JBMzXgfY

    what i did take away from the helen king seminar is Question Everything. 😉 so that's where i am. (which isn't to say i wouldn't LOVE to take a Pat Hastings seminar) i am not totally convinced about the disadvantages of a shelf, which is what HKing seems to think, but nor am I convinced in the other direction either, which is the discussion on the other thread. I do think it makes for a pretty outline, but am less sure of the functionality.


  • @agilebasenji:

    actually helen king has some very interesting info on ewe necks and retrieving. look at june 15, 2008
    http://sonicagility.blogspot.com/

    and here:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ej3JBMzXgfY

    what i did take away from the helen king seminar is Question Everything. 😉 so that's where i am. (which isn't to say i wouldn't LOVE to take a Pat Hastings seminar) i am not totally convinced about the disadvantages of a shelf, which is what HKing seems to think, but nor am I convinced in the other direction either, which is the discussion on the other thread. I do think it makes for a pretty outline, but am less sure of the functionality.

    She did qualify that it depends on the breed and what it is meant to do. I liked the foundation of the arguments that she made based on "structural engineering" concepts. After listening to this, I'm definitely more interested in learned more about structure/performance relationships and getting different viewpoints. I'll have to see if Helen King is anywhere in my area in the future.


  • there has been talk of this book on the cleanrun list. hmmmm. . . dogwise comes to town later this month, so i'll have to check it out.


  • okay, got the book and will put it in my "To Read" backlog


  • Cool. I'm curious to hear what you think of it. I'm reading a book now that focuses on the behavioral and conformational evolution of dogs. The whole subject of dog structure/behavior is fascinating. I think I'm going to have a lot more questions than answers after I'm finished reading it. :rolleyes:


  • @Nemo:

    Cool. I'm curious to hear what you think of it. I'm reading a book now that focuses on the behavioral and conformational evolution of dogs. The whole subject of dog structure/behavior is fascinating. I think I'm going to have a lot more questions than answers after I'm finished reading it. :rolleyes:

    okay, well, you can't just throw that out there without letting me know the name of the book


  • Oh yeah, that was stupid of me. It's the Coppingers book called "Dogs: A New Understanding of Canine Origin, Behavior, and Evolution". It was published in 2001 but obviously I'm slow getting around to reading it. I'm hoping I can find some other references on similar subject matter after I'm done with it.


  • I just ordered this book to compliment the others. I'm hoping it will help with some structure questions I have.

    K-9 Structure & Terminology
    Edward M., Jr. Gilbert (Author), Thelma R. Brown (Author)


  • have you read Dogsteps? there are also 2 dvd's to go along with it. i've read dogsteps and the coppinger book a while ago, but have not seen the dvd's


  • No, I haven't read Dogsteps, I'll have to add that to the list. Thanks!


  • 'I just ordered this book to compliment the others. I'm hoping it will help with some structure questions I have.

    K-9 Structure & Terminology
    Edward M., Jr. Gilbert (Author), Thelma R. Brown (Author)'

    A very good choice, Nemo. Another good one is Robert Cole's 'An Eye for a Dog' which includes Basenjis and if you can get hold of it (out of print), - 'The Dog in Action' by McDowell Lyon.


  • Let me know what you think about Coppinger's book. i had some mixed feelings.


  • Oh! and today's purchase was a large fitpaws balance ball. it's not really a "ball" sort of a squashed ball. Anyway, it is suposed to help build back leg muscles and improve balance, all-over muscle tone, back end awareness. We'll see . . .


  • Coincidentally, Pat Hasting mentioned using a balance ball in the seminar to help with getting imbalanced muscles into proper proportions…particularly in the case of known structural weaknesses. She mentioned a Thera Ball which sounds like the same thing.

    It sounds like a good idea in general though for a performance dog. Take videos when you're trying the dogs out on it. I'm sure it will be entertaining. 😃


  • @Patty:

    'I just ordered this book to compliment the others. I'm hoping it will help with some structure questions I have.

    K-9 Structure & Terminology
    Edward M., Jr. Gilbert (Author), Thelma R. Brown (Author)'

    A very good choice, Nemo. Another good one is Robert Cole's 'An Eye for a Dog' which includes Basenjis and if you can get hold of it (out of print), - 'The Dog in Action' by McDowell Lyon.

    Thanks, you can get both on Amazon. "The Dog in Action" appears to have been reprinted.

    I feel like I need to get a Kindle. My bookshelf is going to need more room! :rolleyes:


  • @Nemo:

    Coincidentally, Pat Hasting mentioned using a balance ball in the seminar to help with getting imbalanced muscles into proper proportions…particularly in the case of known structural weaknesses. She mentioned a Thera Ball which sounds like the same thing.

    It sounds like a good idea in general though for a performance dog. Take videos when you're trying the dogs out on it. I'm sure it will be entertaining. 😃

    Actually Zest was on the disc with all 4 feet in about 3 clicks at the show today. Putting her feet on something is one of the first things she will do when there is a human with a clicker and there is something new in her environment.

    I really got the disc for Digital who has lost some muscle mass and while he does go swimming once a week, i'd like to do a little more. it is difficult for the basenjis to get enough exercise here in the winter. And at 14 it seems more difficult to build muscle.

    Oh and if you're really thinking about an ereader, take a look at the new color nook. i have a previous model nook and have really enjoyed it. with nook, you can share some titles, there is a free book download on friday (some worth price, some not so much) and you can go to Barnes and Noble and read any e title for an hour for free. nice way to test drive a book.


  • I hope it helps Digital. I can sympathize with trying to get them enough exercise in the winter.


  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGLfND_cP8

    This video re-cap is from FitPAWS booth this weekend. Thanks for all of your support!


  • catrios1
    could you please try again. i got a "malformed video" message when i clicked your link. (I have the little red/white basenji girl who enjoyed your booth this past weekend)


  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGLfND_cP8g

    Try copy pasting into your browser. If that does not work you can view it on our FitPAWS facebook site too, just search FitPAWS on facebook. Hope it works! I Loved your Basenjis!!

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