Thanks everyone! She is doing great so far, awesome personality. I'm so happy I found Kyle and Steve, they have been great as well.. She hasn't roo'd yet, but she screamed bloody murder in the crate in the car!
Oba is finally home!
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Are martingale's dangerous when left on off lead?
Yes IMO, as they work like a choke collar…. and there is no way they can back out of them if they were to get caught on something. Personally I never leave collars on when I am at home... just for that reason, I am always worried that they could get hung up on something and then there is Mickii that will chew them off the others...
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All constricting collars (ie trainer collars) should NOT be left on when the dog is off lead or unattended. A number of dogs have been known to get caught in these collars and choke themselves. Most dogs if caught by the collar, or harness, will try to run or pull away and generally end up choking themselves.
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seeee i disagree with the feeding seperately/in a crate thing.. rocky and mia share bowls.. and they eat out of each others with no problem. Rocky did it before we got mia when we had the other dogs.. I guess its different with different dogs and people. we free feed too, occasionally we'll take the bowls but not all the time. idk thats just how it always was when both my boyfriend and i had dogs before. just my point of view.
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I don't use a crate for Baroo because he was locked up in one for up to 12 hours a day before I rescued him, so he is traumatized by the crate and won't go in one, but I am fine with that because he really doesn't need it and can be trusted without one. I hate the idea of putting her in one and leaving him out, but thats just how it is. Baroo has calmed down a little more with the bowl issue. He really doesn't care now as long as he can choose which one he wants to eat from. They switch a lot, and it seems to be fine.
I do put Oba in her crate to settle down sometimes, and that works for the most part, but sometimes she settles down in there and comes out ready to play again and baroo still isn't in the mood.
She is getting better by the day. She still chews a lot, but I guess that is to be expected. I was a little upset when she chewed a hole in my blanket though. I am trying to keep her busy with treats. She really seems to like the healthy edibles nylabones.
She has peed in the house a couple times even though she is housebroken, but I am guessing that is just an adjustment issue. She hasn't done it in a few days though. Hopefully she won't again.We need to get her into obedience class, because she doesn't even know come, but it is hard to find a decent one where we live. Hopefully we will soon.
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seeee i disagree with the feeding seperately/in a crate thing.. rocky and mia share bowls.. and they eat out of each others with no problem.
Yes and she would be able to do this IF Baroo wasn't eating Oba's food but the problem is Oba's food is being eaten by Baroo. Thus, in order to eliminate this, crating them would allow them both to eat their own food, both get enough, & cause less chance of food aggression between the two dogs.
We have never free fed any of our dogs growing up because they would just lick the bowl clean. I think if your dog won't eat all of the food the second you put it down, great, but I just don't think that is very common. At least not as common as the dog eating every last bit [even if they aren't really hungry]. I mean, these are Basenjis afterall & at least with mine, he's a porker :p
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She is getting better by the day. She still chews a lot, but I guess that is to be expected. I was a little upset when she chewed a hole in my blanket though. I am trying to keep her busy with treats. She really seems to like the healthy edibles nylabones.
Glad to hear things are continuing to improve. I would say they could both be uncrated while eating as long as they are both eating food, and enough of it. If Baroo picks his bowl & then leaves the other one alone, I think you should be fine
As for the chewing, again have you tried giving her the durable nylabones? The flexible ones are definitely too weak for a strong chewer [like a B or a shepard] but the durable ones are pretty great.
If she is chewing on something you don't want her to simply remove the object she is chewing & replace it with something she can chew [again durable nylabones/compressed rawhide/bully sticks/etc] & then say "good girl" or whatever your good behavior language is. This way she will understand "okay I can chew on this". I also have been using the word "NOT YOURS" if Dallas starts chewing something he isn't supposed to & then switch it with something while saying "This is yours. good boy!" Once he starts to chew that instead of the other item, I reward him with a little piece of a treat.
He has [knock on wood] completely stopped chewing on our coffee table knobs, which were his personal favorite when we got him. A small step in the right direction but certainly makes me feel like it's working
Plus, he is getting to the point where when I just say "NOT YOURS" he will walk away from the item he was chewing. It's similar to the leave it command but just designed for chewing vs. everything else the leave it command covers. -
Haha well mia does eat rockys food. They both eat out of each others bowls. They each get a cup and a half of food in each bowl every morning and there's usually food left over at night.
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And in response to the food aggression issue… I don't see how keeping them apart will make them not have foos aggression because they aren't being exposed to each other with food. What happens if you drop something while your making dinner and both go after it... ? Of course both will want it and I'd like to see someone catch a B with stolen goods! Lol just my opinion. Actually kind of a question I suppose. Anyone willing to tell me I'm wrong I'd love to know if I'm thinking crazy lol
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I should have said aggression is Baroo continues to eat all her food & she gets sick of it :p I know some food aggression can actually stem from being fed in crate though, something I have worried about with always feeding Dallas in crate. I make sure to hand feed him sometimes so I can hopefully avoid this later…
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Gotcha. Lol
I know with rocky and mia I sat between them for a few days because when we first got her we fed her twice a day and took food away when she was done. They can both eat and drink out of one bowl at the same time without getting mad. I know I watched them both for awhile before I decided to leave the food out. And food does get taken away at night but they are free to eat when they want during the day.
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seeee i disagree with the feeding seperately/in a crate thing.. rocky and mia share bowls.. and they eat out of each others with no problem. Rocky did it before we got mia when we had the other dogs.. I guess its different with different dogs and people. we free feed too, occasionally we'll take the bowls but not all the time. idk thats just how it always was when both my boyfriend and i had dogs before. just my point of view.
Your right, different things for different people. However the way you feed you never know who is eating what and how much and with free feeding if one is not eating, especially if they are sick, you would never know until it was obvious from losing weight.
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I should have said aggression is Baroo continues to eat all her food & she gets sick of it :p I know some food aggression can actually stem from being fed in crate though, something I have worried about with always feeding Dallas in crate. I make sure to hand feed him sometimes so I can hopefully avoid this later…
I have never had or ever seen food aggression coming from eating in a crate. Mine have eaten in their crates always… I can take their food anytime I want... however, that said... I would not expect them to share their meals with the other Basenjis in the house.
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Hm…maybe it was just my particular dog growing up. She is a Austrailian Wolfhound & Austrailian Shepard Mix adopted from the Humane Society. We always fed her in her crate & if you even walked NEAR the crate while she was eating she would growl like crazy & leer at you. Kind of scary. We tried working on hand feeding her so as to change the behavior but even now she will still occasionally growl while eating if anyone goes near her. We tried feeding her outside of her crate too but then she almost attacked our other dog Marty.
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Your right, different things for different people. However the way you feed you never know who is eating what and how much and with free feeding if one is not eating, especially if they are sick, you would never know until it was obvious from losing weight.
This is my issue with free feeding…for example when C3PO was suddenly losing weight I could tell with much assurance that he was eating normally but still losing weight. I then began to gradually increase his food to address his problem. I don't know how you could gauge that if you free feed.
Mine have always eaten in their crates & it has helped with resource gaurding issues. IMO it gives my dogs some structure to what's expected of them. Sit nicely, eat quietly, & when you're done you're out.
Chew toys & raw hides & such are great for calming down dogs temporarily but they need a lot of exercise. In my experience with my hyper active boy he needs to release energy otherwise he becomes a royal PITA :eek:
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Hm…maybe it was just my particular dog growing up. She is a Austrailian Wolfhound & Austrailian Shepard Mix adopted from the Humane Society. We always fed her in her crate & if you even walked NEAR the crate while she was eating she would growl like crazy & leer at you. Kind of scary. We tried working on hand feeding her so as to change the behavior but even now she will still occasionally growl while eating if anyone goes near her. We tried feeding her outside of her crate too but then she almost attacked our other dog Marty.
That has nothing to do with the crate causing the problem, IMO….
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I was never a believer of feeding in the crate. When we got Leo they would do the bowl switch. Nexa thought they were both hers, she would get snarky if Leo approached. Leo just wanted to eat and didn't really care. We had Leo for about 2 weeks when Nexa got sick and we needed to put medication in her food. We crated her so she would get the medication, and 4 months later she still eats in the crate. There are no problems when they eat at all now. I will always feed them in crates now. Not only can you tell how much each dog is eating, there is no fighting or stress and they can both eat in peace.
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When I first got Daisy, I started feeding both her and Duke in their respective crates. It helped to crate train Daisy and associate her crate as a good place. They came to expect to receive their meals in their crates and ran into them when seeing me coming with the bowls. A couple months ago, I did some rearranging and now stack their crates and put in big comfy crate beds - no room for their food bowls. So I got an idea from sharronhurlbut - be consistent and feed the dogs in separate areas. I decided to feed Duke on the right side of a corner wall and Daisy on the left side around the corner wall. I don't put down their food until they are in their correct places. They seemed a little confused with this new feeding place at first - but it didn't take long but are ready and in position to eat - always.
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I agree with Daisy put the bowls in separate corners and stand in the middle any dog who tries to approach the other end of the room is being told of you´re the boss and they have respect your wishes same goes with chewing on stuff and not letting the other one alone.Baroo was their first so he should get treats,food,bones first but he still has to respect your will and leave Oba in peace to eat her share.And when Oba get´s over exited then it´s time for a time out in the crate.
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Just wanted to jump in to agree with everybody else- keep Baroo and Oba separated at mealtimes for now, otherwise the risk of resource-guarding/fights over food is very high. Maybe once Oba has settled in and knows the house rules, and where she fits into the family, you can start thinking about changing the eating arrangements.
I also wanted to add to remember to give Baroo his own special time alone with you, and if necessary, some time where Oba isn't bugging him. I think it'll help him through the process of accepting a new member into the pack.
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And please take off that choke chain when he is not on a leash…...
